@Tsaukpaetra said in I can has safe shutdown?: Put another way, if I do ping google.com and it just says no route to host, do I blame ping or the fact that my network is disconnected? BTW, ping -n 8.8.8.8 tends to be one of the better ways to test routability (provided you don't work for the alphabet company). Easy to remember, and doesn't try to screw around with DNS (in case that's what's broken… )